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[Beginning of
Cramer's
verbatim
comments for
this segment...]
Jim:
Someone knows
something about
natural gas...
someone knows
something I
don't know. I
mean, that's
what I have to
think when I see
the stocks going
higher...
despite the
underlying
commodity going
lower... I mean,
the stocks are
going, "buy,
buy, buy!" And
natural gas is
going "sell,
sell, sell!"...
Could there be
something going
on with natural
gas as a fuel?
Maybe outfitting
gas stations...
cars... so that
they can run on
something that's
maybe 20%
cleaner than
crude? Maybe
more...
That's what I
think when I
look at the run
that
Clean Energy Fuels Corp.
(CLNE)
has had. This is
a stock that
I've liked as a
spec for a long
time. It's up
171% since the
last time I
spoke to the
CEO,
on November 20th...
when it was at
$3.49.
CLNE is THE play
on using natural
gas as a fuel in
this country...
What a move it's
had. But, of
course, a
spiteful person
- like I once
was - can say,
c'mon Jim, you
liked it in the
teens a couple
of years ago...
I've liked it
all over the
place. You'd be
right. But it's
had a super
climb from the
bottom and now,
maybe
opportunity
knocking, down
71 cents today,
to $9.46... in
the miserable
trading session
we had.
Alright, for the
longest time, no
one in
Washington would
embrace natural
gas... Fossil
fuel!... And
there was a...
if not a
full-blown Jihad
against fossil
fuels... even
cleaner ones,
like natural
gas... The
democrats didn't
want to get
their hands
dirty with
something that
wasn't wind or
solar. Never
mind that we
needed
transition fuel,
if we want to do
something about
climate
change... in the
decades before
truly renewable
fuels can start
making a
difference...
until they can
put that
windmill on your
trunk...
Plus, the coal
lobby... both
democrats and
republicans... a
lot more
powerful than
the natural gas
lobby... So in
this weird
world, where we
embrace the
cleanest and the
dirtiest, but
nothing in
between... At
long last
though, it looks
like the
attitude in
Washington is
changing...
Maybe the
natural gas
companies hired
some better
lobbyists... to
spread more
money around...
I don't know.
Something's
doing
something... I'd
be happy to
waive my usual
consultation
fee, if we get
with the
program...
That's a joke. I
don't have one.
Yesterday,
Senate Majority
Leader, Harry
Reid's annual
"Clean Energy
Summit" in Las
Vegas, took
place. Natural
gas is getting a
lot more
attention out
there. Even Al
Gore seemed to
acknowledge "the
inconvenient
truth" that
we're going to
need to embrace
a fuel that's
just "less
dirty" before we
can get clean.
My take? Let's
hope that what
happens in Vegas
doesn't stay in
Vegas, for a
change... And
maybe the word
goes beyond the
Bellagio...
There might even
be the political
support to get
natural gas
through
congress... oh
wow... Among
other things,
the bill that's
on the table
would require an
extension of
existing credits
for natural gas
as a
transportation
fuel. It would
provide a tax
credit for the
purchase of a
natural gas
vehicle. It
would require
that half of the
vehicles that
the government
purchases, over
the next five
years, to be
natural gas
fueled.
Hmm... This
legislation
would be huge
for Clean Energy
Fuels... the
largest chain of
natural gas
filling stations
in the
country... not
to mention the
natural gas
companies... If
this gets
passed, they're
all going to be
good.
The big question
I have is, have
the political
winds changed
for the fuel?
Are the
democrats
finally willing
to do something
smart here? I
don't know...
Hey, but I know
someone who
would...
Andrew
Littlefair, the
CEO of
Clean Energy Fuels Corp.
(CLNE)...
Jim:
Andrew, welcome back
to Mad Money...
Andrew:
Well thanks for
having me back Jim.
It's better to be
here at $9 (per
share price) than at
$3.49...
Jim:
I think I can
give you a big
booyah on that,
actually. Alright
now, I am by nature,
because I've done
okay in the stock
market... a
suspicious and
skeptical person...
I look, and have
been telling my
staff, and come out
here every night...
and say I can't
understand...
natural gas at
$3.50, but the
stocks have been on
a tear. Somebody
knows that natural
gas is going to
become a preferred
fuel. I look to you,
sir, as the person
who might know
what's going on.
Andrew:
I think
you're right in your
intro, Jim, that
there has been a
change in
Washington... and I
was there yesterday
with Vice President
Gore and Senator
Reid and a whole
host of others...
President Clinton,
Boone Pickens...
and, you know, all
of them seem to
believe now that we
ought to move to
natural gas for
heavy duty vehicles
as a bridge. You
know, Boone had it
right yesterday...
There are 3 million
18-wheelers in the
United States moving
our precious goods
around the United
States. If those
went to natural gas
and, of course, that
won't happen
overnight... that
would reduce 2.7
million barrels of
oil that we import
every day... out of
the 12-13 million
that we import...
Jim:
Every day?...
Andrew:
Every day,
every day...
Jim:
Now, how much
has "cash for
clunkers" reduced?
Is it like 2.7
million a year?...
Andrew:
Yeah,
yeah... it pales in
comparison.
Remember, an average
passenger vehicle
uses 600 gallons a
year... 660... and
an 18-wheeler uses
20,000 gallons. So,
if we want to do
something for
climate change...
natural gas is 26%
better on climate
change... and reduce
foreign oil... this
is where you go. And
I think, actually,
it's beginning to
get traction. You're
right. The Natural
Gas Act has been
introduced in the
Senate and in the
House, and has 75
co-sponsors... Uh,
Senator Reid just
sent a letter out,
and made a public
statement, saying
he'd like to have it
as a standalone
bill. I don't know
if that'll happen or
not... it will
obviously happen
after the recess...
we'll see... but you
know, a lot has
changed over the
year.
Jim:
Alright,
Andrew... I have not
yet heard the
President, who talks
a lot about arcane
issues, whether it
be the credit card
companies or the
healthcare... I have
have never heard him
utter those two
words together,
which is "natural"
and "gas"...
Andrew:
Well, you
know, I haven't
heard the President
speak about it as
much. We've got
leadership in
Congress now. I know
Boone has met with
President Obama on
the subject, and
seemed to understand
it... His Secretary
of Energy, Chou,
seems to need a
little work on it...
Jim:
Yeah, oh
yeah...
Andrew:
...but he's
not quite there yet.
But I think we're
going to get there
Jim.
Jim:
Does anyone in
congress know that
there's huge...
particularly, say,
from Pennsylvania,
New York, West
Virginia, North
Dakota, South
Dakota, Arkansas,
Texas... Do they
know that they are
sitting on millions
of jobs, if they
push this through?
Andrew:
Right, if
you just did 350...
I think they do now.
I think that,
finally, Washington
has figured out that
we have a lot of
natural gas. I mean,
it's a total game
changer, right? Here
we have this
domestic clean
resource that we
have, that we can
produce versus the
foreign oil. Listen
to this one, Jim...
If you just did
350,000 heavy duty
trucks... so let's
just say you do that
over three years,
but I think you
could do it faster,
but that's modest...
that would create
450,000 jobs over
three years. It
would replace 5
billion gallons of
diesel a year. I
mean, no other
alternative fuel
that we have is
ready today...
Jim:
But, you know,
I've been speaking
to natural gas
executives for two
years and no one's
listened. You know,
when did Gore get on
board?
Andrew:
You know he,
working with Boone,
the Vice President
has come around...
he's figured out we
have batteries... he
likes the battery
for the small
vehicle...
Jim:
We all love
batteries...
Andrew:
We all love
that, but you don't
have that technology
ready for a Wal-Mart
truck... and he gets
that now... and he
said it yesterday...
and he said, Boone,
I'm with you now
with natural gas as
the bridge... and
that bridge is
probably good for 20
years...
Jim:
I agree... I
think you're going
to need it. Okay, so
now you just raised
$73 million in
stock. Obviously, if
Congress passes
this, you are the
huge beneficiary.
But we can't expect
Exxon to switch,
right? I mean, we'd
have to build all
new stations. They
have so much vested
in gasoline...
Andrew:
Right. And
so I think the way
this is going to
work right now is
it's going to move
for the heavy duty,
and so it's not
going to be Exxon
and Chevron, because
they fuel light duty
vehicles. They may
get with it later,
but you're going to
put natural gas in
at truck stops, is
what's going to
happen. That's how
it's going to
start...
Jim:
Can you do
that? Do you any
sort of agreement?
Do you have
agreements to do
that?...
Andrew:
We're
working on that
right now... yeah,
yeah... That's the
next phase that
we're working on.
You know, we've
built... we just
finished the largest
LNG (liquid natural
gas) truck stop in
the Port of Los
Angeles... You know,
there's 500 LNG
trucks hauling Nike
shoes and Target
goods out of the
Port of L.A.
everyday, so this
stuff works. And
now, Swift Trucking
and J.B. Hunt and
Wal-Mart and
Pepsi-Cola... they're
all testing this...
Jim:
I love it...
Andrew:
They know
it's going to
work...
Jim:
Alright, Andrew
Littlefair, thank
you for coming on.
Thank you for...
Look, this isn't
about proselytizing...
the show is about a
lot of different
things. I see a
trend. I want people
in it. So far, it
hasn't worked. I
feel emboldened
after speaking with
you. Thank you so
much sir... good to
have you...
Andrew:
Alright,
okay. Thanks Jim.
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Jim's
comments AFTER the
interview:
The stock is
Clean Energy Fuels Corp.
(CLNE).
Once again, I'm
going to issue only
a warning... it is a
speculative stock.
If you agree with me
that natural gas
will be our
preferred fuel in
2013-14 for cars,
though, this is a
better deal than
Exxon.
[verbatim recap]
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