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[Beginning of
Cramer's
verbatim
comments for
this segment...]
Jim:
After a mega
pullback like we
had yesterday
and today's
ridiculous
intraday drop
that panicked
people out of
the market
instead of
enticing them,
as it should
have, if you've
been watching
this show. You
know we like to
fall back on our
long term
themes. But is
it enough for a
company to be
tied into a
hugely important
multi-year theme
like the mobile
internet
tsunami, can
that carry it?
Will that wave
carry all boats
into Smartphones
sea higher? Or
to mix
metaphors…do
these companies
need to do more
than just be a
part of the
mobile internet
food chain if
they're going to
make you money.
Yeah, they do!
They have to
know how to surf
the tsunami,
which in this
case means they
need to be able
to execute. And
that's what I
got to find out
here. Admittedly
I'm somewhat
concerned when I
look at
Aviat
Networks, Inc.
(AVNW).
This is a
company formerly
known as Harris
Stratex. We
recommended the
stock, it was
back in
September 11th.
It was trading
around $6.68.
Pretty much
where it is now.
We said it was
the speculative
way to play the
wireless
infrastructure
buildout that's
necessary to
support the
enormous and
ever increasing
amount of
bandwidth that
these
Smartphones and
Netbooks, pretty
soon the iPad,
take up around
the globe.
Aviat makes what
are called
microwave back
whole radios.
These are in
short supply in
America. They're
used to connect
cell towers with
the actual
wireless
network. We
believe in this
technology
because it's
much cheaper
than running a
coper wire or a
fiberoptic line
between 2
points. That's
why 60%, 60% of
backhaul
connections
worldwide are
done using
microwave radio.
Here's the
problem.
Wednesday night,
Aviat reports,
right it
reported a
quarter that
Wall Street was
not happy with.
And its stock
fell 12.5% from
Wednesday's
close of $7.27.
Aviat beat
earnings by a
penny from what
people were
looking for. But
its revenue came
in below the
Street's
consensus,
meaning what the
Street thought,
and to make
things worse the
company's
guidance for the
next quarter
fell short of
expectations as
well. It was, no
word mincing, a
terrible
quarter. And I
know that the
analyst felt it
was one of the
worst that
they've seen
this year. I'm
trying to figure
it out myself.
Stocks become a
playground for
short sellers.
Shortages are
about 11% of the
float, we don't
like to see
this. My hope is
that the problem
is not one of
demand. that
would hurt our
mobile internet
tsunami thesis.
My hope is that
it is just about
execution,
meaning that
orders didn't
yet come true or
contracts didn't
yet close.
That's a
different matter
and it's a
positive one. In
other words, it
may just be a
bookkeeping
issue and the
whole thing's
blown out of
proportion or
the shorts are
pressing the
case and the
longs in panic
mode. Frankly
the stock could
represent a
fabulous
speculative
opportunity
right here after
the bad news, or
maybe it remains
a lagger. I got
to tell you we
got to find out.
We need to do
more homework.
And that's why
I'm thrilled to
have the CEO of
Aviat
Networks, Inc.
(AVNW),
that's a changed
name from Harris
Stratex, Harald
Braun on the
show.
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Jim:
Mr. Braun,
welcome to Mad
Money…
Mr. Braun:
Hi Jim.
Jim:
Alright, we got
to get to the
bottom of it,
right? Because
you know the
conference…look…it
wasn't like you
guys were
upbeat, you were
tough on
yourselves…
Mr. Braun:
Yup.
Jim:
But you
also gave us
some explanation
that seemed to
indicate there
was a lot in the
works, it just
didn't close in
time. Fair
analysis?
Mr. Braun:
Fair
analysis Jim.
So, our
shippings and
bookings, right,
support actually
a bigger revenue
right. And we
are not alone in
this deal,
right, we have a
big deal in the
Middle East, so
we are not alone
in it. And, you
know, it's a
complex
situation, and
we would have
thought, you
know, we can
take more
revenue on it.
But you have
this Revenue
Recognition
Rules, right?
Jim:
Right.
Mr. Braun:
And,
they actually
didn't allow us
to take all the
revenue. We
could only take
a portion of it.
We needed to
bundle something
on this deal and
there are other
recognition
rules and we
played by the
rules and we
couldn't take
all of that.
Otherwise we
would have been
somewhere up
there, right?
Jim:
But, yeah
but, a lot of
the companies
that are engaged
in this backhaul
business are
blooming and
can't even fill
all their
orders. Do you,
is there
something in the
geographic area
you have or with
the competition,
that you are not
struggling to
meet demands?
Mr. Braun:
Yeah,
you know, it's a
mixed bag
somehow, right.
So when you have
a simple deal
and you ship a
box and you know
you book it in
the quarter you
take revenue in
the quarter, you
take the cash
and everything's
done. Complex
deals with tier
1 customers
worldwide, and…
Jim:
Can you
explain tier 1,
because, you
know, we're not
analysts.
Mr. Braun:
Oh
yeah, there are
the big
telecommunication
operators like
the AT&Ts and
the Verizons.
And they are
complex deals.
They go over
several
quarters, right.
And of course
you don't have
everything done
in one quarter.
As I said we're
not only alone
in this deal.
The fundamentals
are in place, as
you said before
the fundamentals
are there, and
the demand is
there. But you
can not all the
time, time it.
It's a timing
issue for us and
in this
particular case
it is now in
differed
revenue, that
means, it will
hit later on in
other quarters…
Jim:
But, why
couldn't you
signal to people
who follow your
company closely
that this maybe
developing,
because I felt
that when I
listened to the
conference call
that many of the
analysts were
somewhat
betrayed by what
they thought was
going to happen
with your
company.
Mr. Braun:
Yeah.
I think we
portrayed it in
a way that there
is a differed
revenue, it's
building up and
it will be taken
in the next
quarters and
with all our new
announcements
with new
customers
worldwide, we
are pretty
much…they know
that we have the
bookings. The
bookings support
also in the
future there's
internet
tsunami, how you
call it right.
So, therefore
say, for the
maintenance in
place,
everything is
fine. It's a
timing issue,
and some revenue
recognition
rules which we
have too.
Jim:
But it
wasn't like you
said that this
quarter's going
to be a
blockbuster
either.
Mr. Braun:
Yeah,
so, that is the
thing right. So
the going
forward
guidance, so,
can we really
say that we can
take this
differed revenue
in the next
quarter. So that
we have to see
and therefore we
were a little
bit cautious
there because
you know…
Jim:
Yeah, but,
okay…I mean
again, I mean
you're in a
segment that is
so booming.
Mr. Braun:
Right.
Jim:
I'm trying
to figure out
why we should
stick with Aviat
versus going to
another
backhaul.
Mr. Braun:
Yeah,
I think the,
there again I
think the and
that's what I
heard also on
the call that
the bubble or
the burst of it,
I think it's a
quarter or 2
away. Because
with all this
load on the
demand and with
the best
worldwide
customer base
and that
differed revenue
what we can take
there. So, I
think it's just
a short term
issue, where the
bubble burst in
the next
whatever…in the
next 2, 3
quarters I think
that's what we
see…
Jim:
You mean
like the orders
will start
really flowing?
Mr. Braun:
Flowing into
revenue.
Jim:
Okay. So
what do you
do…you have $2
in cash right
and no debt?
Mr. Braun:
Ahum
[nodding his
head in
agreement].
Jim:
I mean,
what do you do
with the money?
I mean if the
stock gets hit,
are you allowed
to buy back yet
or you're really
not because it's
a spinoff,
right?
Mr. Braun:
No, I
think from my
philosophy I
would say we
have changed the
company. I'm 18
months in
changed now. We
have changed the
company to a
what's more
excess play and
we also have
some core
connections now
and a good
service
opportunities.
There are some
pockets where we
think we can
even be
stronger…
Jim:
India?
India?
Mr. Braun:
India
is a good place.
Jim:
Do you have
that market to
yourself?
Mr. Braun:
Not
only for ourself,
there all the
players are
there. But the
union new
announcement
which we made
last week was a
fantastic one.
22 regions in
India we can
serve.
Jim:
Okay so
what happens?
We've lowered
expectations for
the next quarter
but you think
that 2011 is
when everything
kicks in or you
talking about in
the 2nd half of
2010 we can
begin to get
excited.
Mr. Braun:
I
think that in
the calendar
year 2010 we
will see more of
the mobile
operators
expanding and I
think towards
the 2nd half we
will see…
Jim:
I'll tell
you what? We're
going to hold
you to it.
Because you
know, our necks
are out. In
September we
recommended it
and we're not
down on what
we're
recommended but
I did think that
the beginning of
2010 would be
huge, that's not
happening yet.
But we'll hold
you to it, let's
see how we do in
the 2nd
half…fair?
Mr. Braun:
Fair!
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Jim's
comments AFTER the
interview:
Okay. Thank you to
Harald Braun,
President and CEO of
Aviat Networks,
Inc. (AVNW).
We're holding his
feet to the fire and
after the break
we'll try to make
you some money.
Thank you sir.
[verbatim recap]
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